tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1056975246542721444.post7433846784851169098..comments2018-08-18T16:46:56.943-04:00Comments on Two Girls, A Guy, and Some Comics: Marvel Team-Up Prototypes: Girl Trouble, Part 2Sharhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11557062426400835295noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1056975246542721444.post-17246067280608564782008-10-01T23:52:00.000-04:002008-10-01T23:52:00.000-04:00Oh don't get me wrong Karen, I like her later cost...Oh don't get me wrong Karen, I like her later costumes too, but I like that odd fishnet costume the best, personally...<BR/><BR/>And I just want to add, that is the most ADORABLE little Cap costume I have ever seen! Do they have anymore of those?<BR/><BR/>Keep up the entertaining stuff, everyone!Dr. Pymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00067431744939997431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1056975246542721444.post-43869532279989958572008-09-30T10:49:00.000-04:002008-09-30T10:49:00.000-04:00Hi guys - thanks again for your comments. I have t...Hi guys - thanks again for your comments. I have to say, this Spider-man series that we have done has been my favorite set of reviews so far. It's just been a lot of fun.<BR/><BR/>Skydragon, I saw "Danger:Daibolik!" at the wonderful Parkway Theater in Oakland, CA a few years ago. I love old 60s movies like that - Casino Royale is another one that comes to mind. They had a crazy energy to them. Very similar to these 60's and 70's Marvels we've been reading. <BR/><BR/>As for Natasha's costume: I was somewhat garbled in my comments. I actually like the black suit and red hair combo best artistically. It's simple but oh so sleek and cool. I think the red hair probably works better with it than her black hair, purely as a stronger contrast. It's kind of amazing, she still wears essentially the same outfit 30+ years later. A tribute to Romita Sr's design.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10555137520611020235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1056975246542721444.post-19901510204401512222008-09-29T01:55:00.000-04:002008-09-29T01:55:00.000-04:00I have to agree with Sharon and Karen (I smell a b...I have to agree with Sharon and Karen (I smell a band name!) in that I like Natasha more in that odd fishnet with mask costume that she used to wore, starting with Tales to Astonish 60. Unfortunately, I have not read this one in a long time, so I have not too much of a recollection, so no comments from me. I'm sure you're all SO upset by that. :P<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, another great entertaining post! Wonder whom will be involved in part 3? Great job everyone!Dr. Pymhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00067431744939997431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1056975246542721444.post-2928350305299162292008-09-26T13:28:00.000-04:002008-09-26T13:28:00.000-04:00Checked, Diabolik is from 1962, so definitely earl...Checked, Diabolik is from 1962, so definitely earlier than this book. Besides, in 1968 his movie came out, and it was very succesfull in America (anyone has seen it?), so I would definitely count Eva Kant as a possible visual inspiration.Shiryuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11370092039594728900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1056975246542721444.post-4675315457170770882008-09-26T13:25:00.000-04:002008-09-26T13:25:00.000-04:00Great! I was looking forward for part 2! And it's ...Great! I was looking forward for part 2! And it's as interesting as part 1 was.<BR/><BR/>I first met the Widow in the Avengers, in fairly recent times, so I had the opposite reaction as you did, and it was seeing her <I> first </I> costume that stunned me. Especially the hair color, I always thought she was a natural red, but now I'm not certain. Anybody knows?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, the first time I saw her first costume, it reminded me of Mata Hari, the famous spy, in that it seems to be more intended for seduction than for stealth and fight. On the contrary, this one is more out of James Bond / Diabolik (in fact it's the same as his partner in crime Eva Kant... I should check which came first).<BR/>For those who don't know who Diabolik is (shame on you :p) http://www.diabolik.it/<BR/><BR/>This makes me think that in changing the costume, Stan changed his idea of how a spy should be, moving from the type seducing his foes to learn their secrets, to the type hiding in air conducts. Again, possible James Bond influnce there.<BR/><BR/>Going back to the story, I was disappointed by the battle itself. Spidey was depowered as far as I can remember (he had a bug or something) and everything seemed aimed to have the Widow take the upper hand while not winning in the end. The speed with which she left also seemed aimed to avoid her utter defeat, something Stan often did with Namor in the early Avengers issues (it's also mentioned in the AA's notes, to preserve his weight as villain, he is never defeated openly in the first few years).<BR/><BR/>The sexism is there, but not as much as it had been in earlier books (not to mention in the FF or the XM). True, Peter is somewhat chauvinistic, but all in all I wouldn't there's too much of it.Shiryuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11370092039594728900noreply@blogger.com